Interview 5 by Ariana Ellis
Ariana Ellis
Summary:
The
interview starts off with Libby saying how Isa should be looking forward to the
interview because Isa loves argument and after all their discussions they
finally get to the arguments. She also reminds Isa that today is the day that
they agreed to switch places and have Libby as the philosopher. and Isa as the
interviewer. As the interview goes on Isa asks Libby “do you think relativism
can be proven by logical argument?”and Libby answers with a question “ That’s
what I’m doing today isn’t it?” Professor asks “You believe in objective truth
even though you don’t believe in objective goodness right?” He answers his own
question by saying you believe in objective truth because your going to try to
prove that relativism is really true. And you don’t believe that objective
goodness because that’s what relativism means. ‘there is nothing good or bad
but thinking makes it so’”
Reflection:
Interview 5 is about self-esteem and cultural relativity.
Within the interview Isa is trying to explain that sacrificing short-term
happiness for a greater happiness is most benefical in the long run. Libby is
trying to argue that you don’t have to sacrifice your happiness today for
tomorrow’s. That when you do this you have guilt and low self-esteem. Where as
if your happy all the time then you have no guilt and your self-esteem is much
higher. She goes on to explain when you have this guilt of unhappiness you
bring down everyone else around you. Isa agrues that guilt is needed to avoid
long term unhappiness. On this I don’t have a side on which I feel is most
true. I understand what Libby is saying, why sacrifice what makes me happy
today for what could be happy tomorrow, why not just be happy for both days,
have a higher self-esteem and help everyone around you be just as happy. I also
feel where professor is coming from, when you sacrifice your happiness for
something in the long run, it makes life much more appreciable, and you truly
understand what makes you happy if you have sacrificed your short gratification
for something much more important or worth while.
Questions:
Do you believe that have instant gratification or long term
gratification is much more benefical?
Do you think if you know something is bad or goes against
cultural or social standards do you think your self into that it’s a good thing
because of your own values, morals, and ethics?
I believe that long-term gratification is much more beneficial. For example, working out verses binge-watching Stranger Things on Netflix. Even though Stranger Things is exciting and very satisfying to watch and enjoy and you say to yourself "wow! I am SOOOO glad that I decided to skip my workout to do this!!!", in the long run, your body will not be happy with you because it needed that workout. See, the flip side, though exercise may feel like glorified torture invented by the Devil himself, in the long run your body will be much happier and better off because you decided to workout instead of staying sedentary, eating, and watching Netflix.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if that analogy totally makes sense or even can be related to the topic at hand, but that is what I thought of that helped me understand it better.
I agree with you that long-term gratification is more beneficial. Like you said, if somebody decides they will skip exercising for instant gratification they will have negative consequences. They might be happy at first, but soon they could face much bigger issues such as health problems. Similar to this, if someone chooses to ignore guilt they might be happy at first. However, later on they may face larger consequences that will make them unhappy.
DeleteI agree that long term gratification is better than instant gratification in many aspects such as exercising. If we skip exercising or a healthy life style because it's hard sometimes and instead we choose to sit on the couch all day or eat junk food all day because it makes us feel better. This feeling will only last for a short while, but in the long run one could be developing heart disease that will affect you for the rest of your life. But if you sacrifice that instant gratification and exercise or lead a healthy life style. it will pay off in the long run.
DeleteI agree with your post as well! When I am not doing much, I like to either play my Xbox One or watch Netflix on my Netflix one. Honestly, there has even been times where I have chosen to play or watch rather than study or do my homework! Now, playing Madden and NBA 2k is more fun than homework right now, but someday when I have a job and a family that I am trying to support, there is a possibility that I would have wished that I would have taken advantage of my education more. The short term gratification is watch Netflix and playing Xbox and just unwinding, but getting a degree that actually has value because I got the most out of the courses I took is something that will without a doubt have long term gratification because it will not only benefit me, but my wife and children as well.
DeleteI agree with you all. I learned a lot about long-term gratification, sacrificing short-term happiness and gratification benefits you a lot in the long run. For example I work out almost everyday. I strongly dislike sweating and being stinky. But I sacrifice my instant happiness for a longer body goal, and also to make my body stronger that is going to really help reduce my chances of chronic problems.
DeleteDo you believe that instant gratification or long-term gratification is more benefical?
ReplyDeleteI believe long-term gratification is more benefical than instant gratification. I feel with instant gratification you would never know the true meaning of happiness, you would just be living your life just to live. With long-term gratification you learn the meaning of happiness, right and wrong, good and evil. You learn what you should be doing and ought the being doing for the greater good of humanity. To be happy in the moment is ok but to know true happiness and know it for a life time is what I would want. Just like love, I can love a pair of shoes but to know true love of a soulmate outweights the love for shoes by an infinite amount; I love the shoes but I am in love with my soulmate.
Usually when I think that something is wrong or bad in culture etc. it is because of my foundational morals. I side with 'Isa in that there are moral absolutisms, which I base off of the Bible. I know that a lot of people may think that the rules and guidelines in the Bible are now moot due to the expansive amount of time that has passed since then; however, I think that, when it comes down to it, most people hold those values as still true (i.e. murder is bad, stealing is bad, etc.). Of course, sometimes my own prejudices affect my perception of certain people/situations, but I would not count those as morals or values, but as personal opinions. I think that this is what Libby was TRYING to say, but her own ideology prevented her from seeing it. I think... I hope I wasn't self-contradicting there...
ReplyDeleteDo you believe that instant gratification or long term gratification is much more beneficial?
DeleteI believe that having instant gratification is not necessarily in your best interest. If things that you want are instantly given to you it allows you to think that everything in life will come to you easily and without much effort on your part. There is a saying that says "To whom much is given, much is expected". This is a profound statement and shows that the gifts that we receive are just a preview of what will be expected from us in the future. It is important in life to have good work, family and school ethics. In the long run, long term gratification will benefit you more in your life. It will teach you to work towards your goals no matter how long it takes. It will give you much more pride when the goal is accomplished.
I believe that the Bible has been overlooked by people of this generation and it has an abundance of information by which we can live by and learn from if only we take the time to read and let it sink into our hearts. It is true that the morals that we are taught in our youth will send an alarm in us when we are doing something that is wrong. These morals are our foundation and what we base our belief of right and wrong on. It is hard as we age to not be influenced by those that we surround ourselves with, whether it be by choice or not. I like to think that my gut feelings of good and bad are because, the ten commandments have been stamped on my heart when I was in the womb and they help me to truly know what is wrong in questionable situations. We all have a gut feeling that helps us know what is the right thing to do and we need to listen to it.
DeleteI agree with you, Ru, that thinking something is bad is one’s foundational morals. I base my values off the Bible as well. It is true that even though the morals in the Bible happened a while ago that some still hold true today. These along with many more in the Bible are my guidelines for life. I would not count your prejudice as your values either. It is your personal opinion. You can have morals, but sometimes, as humans we do not follow all of them thoroughly. You were not contradicting yourself at all. I agree with many of the statements you stated because it is how I believe as well.
DeleteI agree with you Ru, thinking something is bad is one's own morals. I also agree that people have strayed away from the teachings of the Bible because times have changed since then. People need to be true to themselves and not try to push morals and laws on others. You believe what you believe because that's how you were brought up. Me, I follow the laws the God gave to Moses because they are from God, the person I follow. I wish society would keep things simple and not have all these different rules and laws for each country, religion, or even individuals. I believe the world would get along better if we got our act togehter.
DeleteI think the fifth interview has mentioned self esteem and cultural relativity. Libby has proposed many arguments but most of them were rejected by the professor. Libby might felt uncomfortable because something she thought was right was actually wrong. Sometimes people see something good, they feel good as well, but they do not see the opposite consequences. Also different areas have different culture, values. But it does not influence our thinking and to make correct and objective statement. Every time people make statement or conclusion should be careful since they need to make sure their conclusions have direct relation to their premises.
ReplyDeletePeople's feelings can not be the criterion for judging morality. In addition, the professor asked Libby different areas have different culture, whether their moral rightness are different. Libby said the statement was right; however, the professor said the statement was absolute and progressive. Libby thought people agree or disagree with other people’s conclusions is subjective rather than objective. I think people should not put their emotions into objective statements.
DeleteI agree with your thoughts. I think Libby felt very confident in her arguments and believed in them but Isa is quick to fire back with intellegent remarks. I think they both have a different mindset and view of ideas. We all come from some sort of culture that has its own values and beliefs that we can regonize but it doesn't mean we have to abide by them if we know it isn't right or wrong. I think this was one of the key ideas.
DeleteI believe long-term gratification is much more beneficial than instant gratification. To me, it would take more time. I am more appreciative and am satisfied longer. With instant gratification, I would only be content for a short amount of time. Due to this shortage, I would yearn for more. I would always want and want. I do not believe this would be beneficial. How can it be if I am never content and always desiring more? With long-term gratification, I would be pleased for a longer period of time. Granted, this is my belief, but it is why I feel long-term gratification is more beneficial than instant gratification.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you on your points about how long term gratification is more beneficial than instant gratification. I think that you become almost spoiled when you are faced with too much instant gratification. You start to take time for granted, and expect things to happen the moment you think of them and start to desire them. I do not believe that we were created to thrive in a society where instant gratification has taken over. Everyone needs to understand that our experiences and our decisions will affect us in the future. Sometimes we have to take the hard road now in order to pave a smoother road for us later on. Relativism doesn’t seem to grasp that concept.
DeleteDo you think if you know something is bad or goes against cultural or social standards do you think your self into that it’s a good thing because of your own values, morals, and ethics?
ReplyDeleteEvery culture is different from one another and for this reason is why when you go to nursing school they have a class based almost entirely on holistic views, so that we may understand the basics of what a culture believes and how to help them. The biggest example Libby gave was of the Eskimos and how they believed in euthanasia when one became elderly and solely dependent upon the family, whereas in the Christian American culture people view euthanasia as murder. Like we've learned in our previous classes thus far, we are not God so even though we have our own values, morals, and ethics they aren't always right. One can think their right, but that doesn't always been that they are.
I feel like when it pertains to ethical healthcare situations, different cultures and social standards there will always be controversy on a decision being made about a patient and their care of treatment. Every situation is different and I know for me when I believe a decision to be bad or questionable I usually end up changing my views. Not because I don't know where I stand in my beliefs or that I am indecisive but because often times there are grey areas and to hold a certain bias wouldn't be fair to anyone in the equation. I don't think that changing your mind about things is necessarily bad but something that should consider a lot of thought.
DeleteI think this was a hard question. Because sometimes culture and nations laws and moral are not always right. Take Nazi Germany, for example, it was illegal to harbor Jews but was it morally wrong? Most people agree that it was morally right. I see that sometimes the cultures' views are not always right, but I can also see how sometimes what we think is moral right isn't always right. While I am not in nursing myself, I appreciate that the nursing majors take ethics class from a holistic view. I know that it would be important for me to that our health professor understands the reasoning behind people of varying cultures medical decisions.
DeleteI agree that sometime in healthcare ethical situations get tricky. There are many things that are acceptable in our culture that people may personally disagree with. In these situations I find many nurses tolerating things they disagree with, rather than changing their view. Like Alex described, it is tricky to find a balance between holding firm to what you believe is right, and having an open mind to learn something new.
DeleteDo you believe that have instant gratification or long term gratification is much more beneficial?
ReplyDeleteWe live in a society where we want everything right now. When we go through McDonald's for a sandwich we want it immediately, we don't care or take notice of why it may take a little longer to receive the sandwich. This is an example of instant gratification. I feel that even though instant gratification gives us more pleasure, I feel long term gratification makes us work for what we want instead of expecting to get it immediately. When you work for something it always makes you feel good, instead of having it handed to you with no work attached.
Do you think if you know something is bad or goes against cultural or social standards do you think your self into that it’s a good thing because of your own values, morals, and ethics?
ReplyDeleteI think that this is when relativism comes into play. Do you think it is bad because of social standards? I think a lot of things today are not necessarily bad, they just do not fit into the social norms. I think the question you brought up is nearly the definition of moral relativism. If someone believes what they do is good and right according to their own values, morals, and ethics, even if it goes against social norms, I would classify them as being a moral relativist. Morals are relative to each person.
I agree, it goes along with their history. How they were raised what was instilled as to right and wrong. I may see it as wrong, but it was not part of my normal. It may looks as though it's wrong, or they are a bad person, but they were taught that all of their growing up, so that is their normal!
DeleteDo you believe that have instant gratification or long term gratification is much more beneficial?
ReplyDeleteI do think that long term gratification is more beneficial. But in the interview, Libby brings up the question, why can we not be happy now AND later. They were talking about the guilt that moral absolutist endure in order to become a better person in the long run. Libby does not agree that guilt is needed in order to guard our souls. Isa likens guilt to pain, and Libby likens it to paranoia. This argument was interesting. A moral relativist does not have guilt because they use their own moral compass, so they are happier in a more immediate sense. If someone truly believes in moral relativism an lives their entire life with their own compass, who is to say that they will not be happy in the long run too?
Do you believe that having instant gratification or long term gratification is more beneficial?
ReplyDeleteThrough my experiences, I would definitely have to say that long term gratification is beneficial. An example of this was when I was a sophomore in high school. Although I worked out on a regular basis through sports, I definitely did not lift weights or train to get stronger. I thought that it sounded way too hard for me to do, so I just ignored my coaches telling me that I needed to build muscle tone. Karma decided to take its turn on me and the summer before I started my junior year of high school I tore my ACL. My doctor told me that the injury could have been avoided if I had stronger muscles surrounding my knee. From then on I have lifted almost daily to insure that another injury will not happen again. Although it is not my favorite thing to do, I know it will pay off in the long run!
I believe that delayed gratification is more beneficial and special. I think that it can really speak about a person’s character and how they are patient, focused, and strong willed. I also think that it is more satisfying to be working towards something. It brings out a hype and excitement in us that’s eager to cross the finish line to get that brand new car we’ve been dreaming of and saving up for or the vacation we’ve been dying to have after working week after week. If every week consisted of “treating yo self” it would make going out or splurging on whatever it may be less special. The pleasure in that particular act would amount to nothing.
ReplyDeleteI agree, when shopping, it's nice to hurry up and buy that cute outfit. . Only to find something nicer 2 doors down. In all reality, it's just nice to know you were able to save your money and have the ability to buy something very nice later down the road!
DeleteDo you believe that have instant gratification or long term gratification is much more beneficial?
ReplyDeleteI personally always choose long term gratification over instant gratification. I'm sure college is the perfect example of choosing the future happiness over being happy now. For 2 Corinthians 4:17 states that our troubles in this world are temporary and are outweighed by the glory that waits. I am sure everyone has had times in our lives that we could have chosen that easy path. A relativist can choose the easy path, and not feel the guilt of putting instant gratification over the investment and sacrifice needed for long term gratification. As a Christian, my long term gratification of everlasting life in Heaven outweighs any instant gratification this world can offer.
I am not sure what happened to my first comment. I was the first one to comment this morning but for some reason It didn't appear. Anyways I would prefer long term gratification because its beneficial in the long run. For instance, we are all going to school to attain a degree so we can better our lives. Sometime we have to choose between having fun verse doing our assignments. I believe we choose to do our assignment instead of having fun to satisfy an instant gratification, because we know that in the long run , we will be better off. After attaining our degrees , we can have as much fun as we like. so we sacrifice instance gratification for a better long term gratification in the future.
ReplyDeleteDo you believe that have instant gratification or long term gratification is much more beneficial?
ReplyDeleteI personally believe that it is better to have long term gratification. If you find happiness out of something instantly, you are less to appreciate it later in life. A long term gratification is something that you can appreciate and enjoy much more I believe. For example, my father just recently bought a house that had been foreclosed on by the people that used to live there. It had a lot of things that were wrong with it. My dad wanted himself and I to fix the house up so that we could move into it. At first, I was annoyed because it was a lot of work and labor that I did not understand why he just did not hire other people to do. But once we finished, I was so glad that we did it because we made memories and to see the transformation of the house was incredible. Every time I walk into his house, I will look at those cabinets that we hung, ceiling fans we installed, floors we laid, and carpet we laid and think of those times we had together. All in all, it was something that I will always remember, so that is why I believe that long term gratification is better.
Instant gratification is nice because you get it quickly of course and it can fulfill a short term need, but long term gratification would be more beneficial. This makes me think of when my college closed and I had to choose between transferring into another ASN program to finish or do a BSN which would take longer by a semester but it is my end goal and i would appreciate it more so I feel more long term gratification from this by happiness for completing my goals unlike if I would have just done by ASN or not continue on at all. I could understand though if someone wanted instant gratification, maybe they needed that for that moment in there life.
ReplyDeleteI believe that long term gratification is more beneficial. Short term is great to see workout results, but the long term gratification of that workout is so much more rewarding!!
ReplyDeleteDo you believe that having instant gratification or long-term gratification is much more beneficial?
ReplyDeleteI believe that long-term gratification is more beneficial than instant gratification. Instant gratification appeals to your emotions and overrides our logic. It’s the desire to experience pleasure, for example, buying something is the most common kind of gratification because it’s when you want it and you must have it right then. Long-term gratification comes from achieving long-term goals or anything that requires an extended period. This satisfaction makes us put effort into everything we achieve and work harder to accomplish our dreams and goals. Instant gratification is just a short-term moment of happiness instead of a long-term achievement of happiness.
Do you think if you know something is bad or goes against cultural or social standards, do you think yourself into that it’s a good thing because of your own values, moral, and ethics?
ReplyDeleteYou would have to be a moral relativist, who thinks every decision you make or do is morally correct in their own opinion and believed that it was the right thing to do. For example, working in a Catholic nursing home can be very difficult at times. Knowing that their religion is different from mine, makes it hard to see some of the families make the decision they must make based on their loved one that’s sick beliefs. It can be heartbreaking when you don’t want that to be the outcome, but it would go against their wishes if you put your own values before theirs.
Instant gratification often manifests as procrastination. It’s a form of self-sabotage where you get caught up indulging in the temptations of life at the cost of your long-term goals. It’s where the pleasures of the moment just seem so much more enticing than the temporary pain you might need to go through to get to your ultimate outcome. And this is why instant gratification rarely gets you what you really want in the long-term. The kind of satisfaction that comes from pursuing our long term goals is one of substance. Anything that requires consistent effort over a long period of time is bound to leave us with a deeper sense of accomplishment. Unlike instant gratification, this is the category where we work to make our dreams become reality
ReplyDeleteDo you think if you know something is bad or goes against cultural or social standards, do you think yourself into that it’s a good thing because of your own values, moral, and ethics?
ReplyDeleteIf something is bad or goes against my culture or social standards I will believe that it is Bad. I have been trained since I was young that of something goes against my culture or morals to not to feed into it. I will do so respectfully without disrespecting their culture or whatever the case may be. But I would never go along with the bad thing or the culture that goes against my believes. I have always stood my ground when it comes to things like this.